Just Checking In
I hope everyone's having a wonderful Saturday so far. At the moment, 2pm BBT, the HGs are out sunning themselves and mostly just enjoying a relaxing Saturday... Me too. :)
Just checking in to quickly recap the important conversations of the day...
11:10am BBT
Joshuah and James talk game
Josh is hoping that Matt goes, then Natalie wins HoH and puts up Ryan, since she's the only one who didn't give Ryan the 2 week pass. Josh and James believe their group has the votes to control the game from this point forward.
- ***What they don't know is a lot.
11:47am BBT
Sheila, Natalie, then Matt joins in.
Sheila and Natalie are reveling in their new found friendship and alliance with the boys. They have been intentionally kept out of the loop by the boys, so they are still excitedly waiting for the ball to drop on Josh tomorrow. Matt joins them and is equally excited about the Veto Ceremony tomorrow. He doesn't let on that the target has switched to James.
12:08pm-12:35pm BBT
Ryan and Sheila - later joined by Matt and Adam
Ryan tells Sheila that he has reconsidered and is now seriously considering putting James up, instead of Joshuah. Sheila tells him how brilliant he is, and agrees that James is a very scary player... that Joshuah is the more obvious choice, but James is a smarter choice. They all congratulate themselves at keeping the other side completely in the dark about the new plan.
Sheila shares the news with Natalie a few minutes later.
1:30pm BBT
James and Joshuah are certain their plan to backdoor Matt is still a go, and they can't wait for it to happen. They're also quite confident that no one suspects their 4 way alliance - Josh/Sharon - James/Chelsia.
2:02pm BBT
Ryan and Matt
Reconfirming James Backdoor.
Matt: I cant wait to see the look on that kid's face.
Here's a clip:
2:30pm BBT
James and Chelsia just finished showering together.
Matt, Nat, Ryan and Sharon are outside sunning and chatting about football..
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2:40pm BBT
Sharon and Joshuah
Josh is mentioning how Matt wont ever give him any alone time with Ryan, and he believes Matt is scared. Both Josh and Sharon feel very secure about the deal with Ryan, and feel he'd be stupid to go back on it.
Josh: If he doesn't do this, he might as well be handing Matt the $500,000.
Josh goes over his ideal order of events with Sharon...
posted by CarolynBBDish @ 2:15 PM
38 Comments:
This is what RYAN said:
Ryan: Oh yeah, they're gonna be scrambling... Our side has been tearin things up. PoVs, all the comps... They're scared to death of us.
And, from my counting, James/Chelsia 1 hoh, 1 POV...
Josh/Sharon, 1 HOH, 1 POV. Matt/Natalie 2 POVs, no HOH. Ryan, HOH. So, no THEY HAVE THE POWER on their side.
And, AGAIN, I stick by my FIRST judgment, Ryan is making a HORRIBLE mistake. He is helping EVERYONE in the hosue BESIDES him. He needs to TAKE OUT MATT, securing not being nominated by the quad alliance, and his side CAN'T nominate him cause the OTHER FOUR are a bigger target. He sits around while battle ensues, and picks up whoever is left!
Next week is an ENDURANCE competition. You can be guaranteed Sharon or Chelsia will win it. Target Ryan/Matt if Ryan doesn't nominate Matt. Not to mention, Adam knows Shiela is weak, Matt knows Natalie is weak. So, by the time it gets to THEM FIVE, eh is first out, as their girls will keep them no matter what and they suck at competitions!
Ryan is just sealing his fate. He needs to take a RISK and nominate Matt, who WILL BE WITH HOH no matter what! You watch, Chelsia/Sharon wins HOH and they will USE MATT. Matt will hop to their side as long as they are in power, and they will keep him around just to get back at Ryan and say a big F U to Ryan. I will laugh then.
Pyke
How is Ryan being manipulated? He is the one who decided (at this point) that James would be the backdoor victim. People saying that he is a pushover and a flip-flopper are obviously fans of the J/S/J/C alliance that are disappointed that their favorites FAILED TO manipulate the big guy. Go Ryan!!
Sharon and Josh are already planning to put Ryan up if Sharon wins HOH?
Thats why the bro alliance is ryan's best bet. There is no way those snakes in the nerd herd would honor their word. Ryan would be up on the block the first chance they got, make no mistake. At least Matt needs Ryan and Adam and shouldnt stray any time soon.
there will be others ready and willing to evict Matt. He should hang on to him for now. Things will change with the return of Alex. I think Alex, if he's smart will play along. dont forget he has been away for a while and doesnt know the HG's as well as the other bro's. Matt's power over the other HG's is weakening by the day. Everyone is wise to his tactics and he is becoming predictable. Not so much of a threat anymore.
The only one out of J/C and J/S that I like is Sharon and she is the one on the block. I do think she will survive and stay in the house no matter who is up with her. I don't care who leaves - James or Josh. But I do agree that it is a HUGE mistake not to take Matt out while there is a chance because Matt will be the first one to turn on the Bro alliance when needed. Too bad they don't know another HG is coming back. They might all figure their strategies a little differently if they knew they would gain another HG soon.
That's Big Brother, though...
nwJoe... if you notice, Ryan said, "What do I do?' They said "Nominate Josh. He says, "Ok." They say nominate James, he says, "Ok."
He doesn't have a brain of his own. Allison ran him, so did Jen. Ryan just doesn't know how to play this game... and add 2 plus 2.
That's right Seffie! This is definitely the game we know as Big Brother! ;)
anon@3:15 - no, they think Natalie is on their side, and would like her to win HoH and put Ryan up, since she's the only one who didn't make the 2 week promise to him.
People say that Ryan is easily manipulated, because HE IS! He is a player who let's his emotions get the best of him. Granted, a lot of these players do in this game and it will be the downfall of them, but he is the most popular one that we are all discussing at the moment. Yes, I will agree that I believe J/C and J/S are better than A/S and M/N, but I would still say that Ryan is still easily swayed even if I supported the other group. I am frustrated that one of my choices will be leaving, yes, but I am more frustrated at how some people are playing this game right now.
The fact that Ryan can EASILY forget the fact that he was voted out 2 out of 3 times by Matt n Natalie is appaling...and he still wants to believe that Matt is his boy and will protect him...can't wait till that belief smacks him across the face! Plus I love how A/S and M/N are using him at this moment. How the hell can he say the rationale for putting James up is because he likes to play both sides? Does he not forget the blatantly obvious fact that Matt will gladly play both sides of the house as long as he can stay in the game? FRUSTRATING! Honestly, this alliance of "bro's" will stick around for as long as it suits those four and then they will kick Ryan's ass out faster than when Kaysar came in and out the door in BB6 his second time around. I would personally trust a 2 week alliance from people who are truly playing this game well, rather than a 4 week alliance from people who don't play well in games.
Sheila...give it up for her. She's playing the game FINALLY! I'd give her a high five if I was in that house. And she looks good in a unitard!
Natalie is playing dumb. I'm sorry; I know that is harsh, but come on!! You have a dude who seriously treats you like you are lower than dog crap, and you still trust him and love him. She isn't loyal to him; she loves his ass and will do ANYTHING to make sure she keeps him close to her. Matt's biggest mistake, besides being caught countless times in his constant playing of both sides, was Hummergate, hands down!
Adam - love the dude. I know he can be a raging douche sometimes but I gotta like the dude. I think someone should check the googly eyes but still...cool dude nonetheless.
I honestly do feel sorry for Sheila and Natalie, because they will be thrown under that bus AS SOON AS one of the three remaining players from the other side win HoH. I just hope that whoever the three remaining are can look past the betrayal and go after the three guys.
Oh and I have just one more bone to pick.....why is it that James, Chelsia, Sharon n Josh are considered the "nerd herd"? The nerd herd is usually the alliance that is somewhat weak that hates the strong players for doing so well in the game, and they all come together to get those strong people out. If you're going off of Veto n HoH comp wins as a measure of who the nerd herd is, then Adam, Matt, Sheila, Natlie, and now Ryan, are all the nerd herd. Sorry...just been annoying when the "nerd herd" term is used so loosely that it actually gets used incorrectly. :)
After all is said and done, some people will be happy, some will be sad, and I will still watch this season cause it turned from a not-so-great season to one that many have found interesting. So stop threatening to stop watching is so-n-so leaves...you'll develop a new favorite in a week, DON'T WORRY!
~ Ryan ~
I guess Sheila and Nat are assuming that their partners will protect them--Nat will be crushed when she finally gets it that Matt doesn't care for her. I felt sorry for her but now I don't--she can't be trusted. I think if Matt was out of the game, she could finally think for herself. Adam will also turn on Sheila--Good thing Adam smokes--he has been alble to slide by because he provided the cigs.
Agree that when Alex come back, the dudes are gonna rule and the estrogen level will diminish at lightning speed.
Of course, there is always the prospect of the (expected) endurance competition, which always goes to a woman.
So, if she survives, my money's on Sharon (or maybe Chelsia) to win that one.
Poor Ryan, he doesn't know that he's the one leaving next week, because if he leaves that snake Matt in the house, the stronger players will have him on the block so fast!! He's cuttin off his nose to spite his face. And I agree with what Pyke said...Ryan can't make a move without someone telling him. I really do like Ryan, but if he goes against the original plan and leaves Matt there, then I am done with him! (Of course I know he really cares! LOL).
Pyke- go back and check end of yesterday. Ryan came up with James on his own and they all agreed with him. Shelia even called it brilliant. Carolyn has a great video clip posted of this scene as it played out. James was totally Ryan's idea.
i'm not really sure what i.d like to see happen at this point but i have a feeling if things stay the same and james gets put up that josh is gonna have another freak out episode -emmy ps.- i really like the new header carolyn!
Anonymous and Carolyn,
Sharon DID make that promise to
Ryan. She talked to him in the storage room after the Veto comp and made the promise to him after Josh, I think it was, urged her to do so. Therefore they would, indeed, be breaking their promise...
I hope I'm not remembering wrong, anyway!! :)
Ryan is such an idiot! Matt will flip on him in a second. I'm so disappointed. I thought Matt was out of here! Well, we've got a long week ahead, they've already flipped twice, so maybe one more time isn't out of the questions!
Carolyn,
I just realized I misread your post. You were referring to NATALIE. I was referring to Sharon.
Sorry!!
Is it just me but why isn't Natalie getting in trouble for writing stuff down? What puzzle is she trying to solve...I'm missing something.
Just a couple thoughts: I think HoH's no longer get a letter from home due to ED's coded letter last season.
and
I think James's backdoor nomination is a karmic payback for his involvement in getting Chelsea nominated.
i swear shelia just annoys me now she acts like shes the shit.
I'm glad Ryan has changed his mind and is now backdooring James/Josh... Good for him. I think its smart, they will have the numbers and get rid of the two strongest couples w/ bond that is for once and for all!!! Will be great GREAT to see James/Josh face if nominated in Chelsias place.
Haha, I can't wait!!
I Think it is gonna be Matt getting backdoor'd. Ryan is setting up both sides now. Sharon vs. Matt...3 to 3 vote with Ryan as the tie breaker to get Matt out so he can feel he has power and trust on J/C J/S side. He see's how Shiela and Nat Can Not be trusted by the way "they" have been kissing his backside more or as much as Matt. At least J/C J/S have offered him 2-3 weeks off the block. What Has His Side Offered Him? He knows Matt wants too,and has tried to run the show. Now Baller,Shiela,and Nat feel betrayed....then comes in Alex to thier rescue? 5 against 4. 3 guys to 2? Baller and Alex flip on Nat and shiela. Then it comes Ryan's two weeks of not on the block. Ryan and Baller join back up with Alex and it's the Bro's Vs. J/C J/S. Then they take out James. Then the back stabbing gets ugly! And I hope Josh Wins it all.
im sorry, but does anybody else think matt and nat are the biggest dorks on the show?? i dont know who the "nerd herd" is. it might be all of them!!
honestly it doesnt matter who goes from either side of the house this week because the houseguest that returns will be on Ryan's side because jen is ryan's girlfriend, amanda hates josh, alex is friends w/ matt, allison hates josh, and seriously, parker and sharon's bf are not going to be voted into the house. my hope is that allison comes back in so that josh gets really pissed. it would make my day if she could watch him be voted out!
first of all im watching the live feeds and i am sooooo irritated bu james and chelsia putting natalie down saying she is a 28 yr old bikini barista what a loser..! Hello james your a gay /bisexual porn star! CMON!!!! im so glad to see the bullies getting a taste of their own medicine tomorrow..ive never heard so much maliciousness..josh instigates all of this..does he have a i hate all women complex but im gay?! he finds a new femaale to assualt verbally as they leave it is truly cruel..i do not like the things he says..i hope when he is out of the house he is embarrassesd..lord i would be if he were my brother..i would be horrified by that behavior..he is super mean..i dont want to see him win anything..i dont care who wins as long as its NOT JOSH!! B in CO
NWJoe i love your comment back on here Ryan is finally thinking for himself actually the house finally is tuning JOSH out...thank goodness! Carolyn you rock ! luv ya! B in co
"Both Josh and Sharon feel very secure about the deal with Ryan, and feel he'd be stupid to go back on it.
Josh: If he doesn't do this, he might as well be handing Matt the $500,000."
Josh is soo correct in his observation on this one. My opinion is that Matt is running everyone on his side. He has Sheila and Natalie being the eyes and ears for him running back and forth between J/J/S/C and him. He has Ryan wrapped around his finger and is calling the shots. I personally don't care for Matt and want to see him bounced. This all comes down to who we like most anyway. So it does determine how we each want to see things go. I really don't have a favorite but James would be the closest. He is smart and really pretty funny actually and not as two faced as Matt is. If Ryan wants to have a shot at half a mil.. he better get his wheels turning and not be so easily schmoozed. Ryan is one of the weakest players in my opinion. After watching his game play, I just see someone who doesn't have an original thought and basically goes with the flow and plays way too safe. He could easily be this season's Zack from last year. He is just trying to dodge arrows if that is what you want to call his strategy. If James is backdoored and someone from Josh's side wins HOH.. Ryan and Matt are both screwed!
I am soooooo sick of the bashing chatter between josh@james..josh is soooo annoying!!! He truly thinks he is the queen bee of the house? what is wrong with him!? And for the record Ryan is not making a huge mistake its about time the house woke up and got a clue! Endurance..whatever..sharon or chelsia might be gone or james..the numbers are in their favor for next hoh! Team RYAN!!! xo
Didnt Ryan say he wanted to put the strongest players up. Matt imo is the strongest player of all, he can sweet talk his way thru anything, he has already proven it. and he will flip flop as often as is necessary to ensure that money is in his pocket. If you ask me, he will deserve the money at the end becuz he would have been the sneekiest one.
I don't see where getting rid of Matt is best for Ryan, as the polls on the blog suggest. (yes, I've made it known I'm a Matt fan but that's not the point). If Ryan gets rid of Matt, he gets rid of the one person that would actually take him to final four (Matt, A-Baller, and what, Nat and Ryan). If he gets rid of Matt, he's just doing the 4-way alliance a favor but ensuring they keep the numbers and getting rid of someone they'd get rid of during their HOH anyway.
It's in Ryan's best interest to keep the power balanced because he's not a part of the 4-way alliance, even if they promise him 2 weeks. That just means his exit is delayed two weeks (of course we know, the 4-way alliance plans to manipulate the nominations if someone else wins HoH to have them get rid of Ryan so they could even try to get him out earlier).
I understand saying Matt in the poll because you don't like him, but you should answer it based on the question. Well actually, I'm interested in hearing Carolyn's thought on the best option since she sees more of the feeds. Is my rationale logical or do you think it's in Ryan's best interest to get rid of Matt now?
Why does everyone assume that Alex will be back? I understand a lot of the people here want him back but theres a lot more people voting we don't know whos coming back and they all have an equal chance at coming back.
it was a seriously dumb move for ryan to keep matt. he will turn on him the first chance he gets and everyone knows it. i think the sharon, josh, chelsia and james would have kept their word to him b/c they have bigger targets they were going after those next 2 wks. i think matt and nat would be the next ones, followed by adam and sheila. matt and nat are strong competitors when it comes to the vetos, sharon, josh, chels, and james have all been hoh...they have a better shot at winning the hoh next week which means ryan and matt are on the block.
i also was watching the fees last night and i am confused. nat is writing on a papertowel with nail polish, isn't that against the rules? what is she writing about? i was confused by what she was trying to figure out. none of it made any sense. it was funny when stupid sheila was like, "when we leave here, we will be going somewhere." wow. way to pitch in and try to figuree out the puzzle! of course you will be going somewhere, not staying at the bb house. she's a smart one. speaking of the girls, they are only in the alliance with the guys right now b/c they feel that they can be useful right now. they are gonna be out as soon as the guys no longer need them.
it really made me irritated last night when james came outside where the bro's alliance was and ryan went over and asked him to play 9-ball. he was hanging out with him knowing he was gonna put him up at the veto ceremony. it's just sad ryan has turned so two-faced.
it was funny watching nat lift weights, though. she was lifting just the bar, no weights on it and was straining so hard and grunting. my husband and i laughed so hard at her. i love how the guys and nat all think that a couple of days of exercise is gonna make them strong enough to win the next hoh. hopefully it will make them so sore they can barely move.
one of my friends watches the showtime stuff and they said that ryan was going to propose to jen while in the house but she left too sooon. Is that true?
and do you think people will vote jen back in? i really hope not we want ALEX.
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Anyone else watching the feeds at 3:06 am BBT? James asks Chelsia and Josh if either of them would be bothered if they backdoor Ryan next week. Nobody had a problem with it. That is why Ryan made the right choice to go with Operation Bum. And can someone please explain how Ryan has been manipulated? Both HGs nominated are his choices, check the tapes. Until he actually makes a decision, his STRATAGY seems to be agreeing with everyone. It's only manipulation when it is acted upon.
None of the HGs are likable right now, with the possible exceptions of Ryan--who's looking dumber by the second--and Sheila. I wouldn't say that the smartest thing for him to do is to take down Matt, but anyone--player or fan--who doesn't see Matt as the misogynistic, egotistical, immoral slime ball he that he so obviously is--is kinda scary to me, frankly.
On a different note, I just can't BELIEVE the things that some of the HGs have in their past, and are willing to talk about for all to hear. I'm thinking specifically of Adam and his comments about getting high before work, and calling the autistic kids retards. And Joshuah talking about using cocaine for his (uncleaned) bareback anal sex activities. Do these people have any shame at all? Do they realize that relatives and employers are seeing this stuff? It's just incredible to me that they do this stuff, and don't mind broadcasting it.
Keeping Matt IS good for Ryan for an obvious reason that no one seems to get. Matt is the biggest target in the house. Say James goes this week and J/S or C win HOH. Are they going to waste their chance to get Matt out to go after Ryan in retaliation? If they did that then they're not as smart as they or their fans think. Ryan's choice to eliminate a threat (James) and keep a bigger target (Matt) around will prove to be a key move.
Thank you nwjoe, I have been saying since thursday that Matt would make a good shield for Ryan.
thanks NWJoe, that's what I've been saying too. accidentally posted last time as Thomas. But yeah, Matt in the house is best for Ryan or Baller. Who cares if Matt will turn on him b/c it would happen too far away from now...if Matt wins HOH he's not nominating Ryan. He's nominating the people that want him out.
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