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Friday, March 07, 2008

BB9 New Target: James

9:00pm BBT
HoH Room
Matt, Adam, Ryan
I'm just sitting here, minding my own business, putting together a bunch of endurance comp research for a post (it's very good news, by the way), when what do I hear but the Bro-lliance cooking up a plan to nominate James instead of Joshuah.

They're calling the plan Operation Tightie, in honor of James' Tightie Whities...

This is ongoing. Is anyone else's head spinning about now?

This whole thing actually started about a half an hour ago outside in the back yard when Ryan said James was who he really wanted out, and the boys are up in HoH now solidifying the plan...

Here's the clip from the backyard, captured by xx2000xx:

Here's the meeting up in HoH, also captured by xx2000xx:

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Anonymous Anonymous said...

Yeah baby! That's even better than Josh.
Gooooooooooooooooooooooooo Matty!

9:12 PM  
Blogger Stephen said...

I would LOOOOOOOOOOOOOVE to see James leave... he would NEVER see it coming... still have 5 days for things to change... lets see what everyone is saying Tuesday evening!

9:14 PM  
Anonymous Jeannie said...

Oh this is even better lol out with James and Chelsia will squirm...oh the drama!!!!hahahhaa. Have a great night.

9:14 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO it can't be James!!!! This show will be so dumb if James isn't there - if they vote James out I won't be bothering with this show anymore. And then I really will be hoping Alison comes back to F their game up!

9:15 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Give it 10 minutes ....

The next five people to talk to Ryan will require Carolyn to write five more "Operation xxx" posts on the "Bro's" new strategy.

These dimwits have no game. None.

9:15 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Sadly I think it's a good idea. But it SUCKS, James has always been my fav.

I'm surprised these boneheads could plot this.


9:17 PM  
Blogger Pyke said...

think about it:

Shiela made the RIGHT move.

However, Ryanis making the WRONG move. What Ryan needs to do is nominate Matt. He is TAKING A RISK, but he will still have Adam/Shiela/Natalie on HIS SIDE to get out Josh/Sharon/James/Chelsia. They won't NOMINATE him... and all he has to do is wiat till one of the four if Matt i gone to nominate them! Then he could JOIN THEM as they would need a replacement. He owuld literally be safe on ALL SIDES as there are BIGGER THREATS.

Shiela is playing smart, but at the same time, Ryan is NOT. Shiela also needs to realize she could have EASILY pulled Adam in with Josh/Sharon/James/Chelsia.

If Josh or Sharon leave this week, so will I. But, I bet if Josh leaves or Sharon, you MARK MY WORDS, Chelsia will win the ENDURANCE COMPETITION on Wednesday, and all hell will break loose, and they can probably pull Alex to their side! They would nominate Adam/Ryan, making a deal with Matt, but if they have the chance, BACKDOOR him.

Ryan should SERIOUSLY think this through and realize he needs to talk to Adam and Shiela and nominate Matt. Ryan would be safe, so what, the others won't, but Ryan would be safe from EVERYONE as everyone else would be so focused on SOMEONE ELSE rather then him!


PS: This about it, what does Ryan get? The fifth wheel. the longer Shiela/Natalie are IN THE GAME, the mroe likely Matt is to keep Nat because Nat will save him no matter what, Shiela and Adam stick together, Shiela/Natalie get together... Ryan has NO WAY to win this way. His best bet is to take a RISK and even the game to 4 vs 4.

9:18 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

What the heck is going on?? They can't make their minds up!! I wish they would stick to the original plan and get Matt out! He's a player! It would also make Natalie sad and weak. And there is nothing I'd like more.. I can't stand her.

9:19 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

This is so annoying. Im going to seriously be laughing my ass off when Alex walks in the house!! Ryan will be done. Although I hope Alex is a bit smarter the second time around and not join their alliance or he will be booted again!!

9:23 PM  
Blogger nWjoe said...

It's so good that we finally have a game to watch!! Hopefully CBS realized the couples thing was wack and we never see it again. BUT, knowing CBS, this summer will be All-Star couples from past seasons... YUK!

9:24 PM  
Blogger Carolyn said...

anon@9:15 - lol... it's starting to feel like the hurricane season a couple years back when there were so many storms we ran out of letters and had to start using the greek alphabet.

9:24 PM  
Blogger Tara said...

It's been said time after time that Matty has Matty's back and his alone. Anyone who trusts him is going to get burned in the long run.
That being said, I like the fact that Sheila is at least trying to make a move now and stepping out of the shadows.
Ryan is way to easily manipulated though, he needs to play his cards closer to his chest instead of spewing out every little scenario in his head, he's HOH for goodness sake, start acting like it!!

9:26 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

NO NO NO!!! I LOVE CHEL AND JAMES. I see how ryan is being smart by getting out hte strong players but dam it they are my favs...

9:27 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

As much as I would LOVE to see either Josh or, better yet, James out....anon @ 2115 makes a good point. All of these operations will make Carolyn go crazy and we'll have to drop a few bucks in her tip jar.
Which reminds me - I found you guys last season and I have no idea how I made it thru all of the years without you. The recaps are amazing. I don't have the live feeds so I check you in the morning and from the time i get home from work on to bedtime. I think it's time i finally sent you a monetary thank you! You guys are the best.

9:28 PM  
Blogger nWjoe said...

Carolyn- Thanks for pulling the hooker comment. Hopefully people will cut out the blatant personal attacks. Alot of people need to enjoy this as a game, and not be so cruel towards the HGs. Blast them for bad stratagy, not how you view them personally. IMO, "white trash" and "hooker" terms are just as bad as the N-word or F-word (which wouldn't be allowed).

9:36 PM  
Blogger Beth & Eric said...

I really like James, but that would be a smart move... Anyone who stabs people in the front is dangerous in this game!

9:37 PM  
Blogger Ida Reilly Dunno said...

I think this is all very funny, I mean come on make up your minds! But this is what makes the game good! Keep us on our toes........

Now as for saying that Ryan is *safe* with J/J/C/S is kinda a crap shoot.....HELLO when is your word really good in BB??????

So I am not sure what I find funnier, how many noms in one nite or that everyone actually believes the word of J/J/C/S that Ryan will not go up. Pinkie swear ;p

9:38 PM  
Blogger Carolyn said...

J @ 9:28pm - Thank you! :)

nwjoe - agreed.

9:43 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Natalie - There are so done,(then tries to spell "done" by saying)D.U.N.

this is after she was going on and on about how she is not dumb.

9:43 PM  
Blogger Meredith said...

There really aren't enough doors in this house to back people out of. James and Josh are both smashing options. While I find Joshuah more offensive, I find James more annoying. Both are needlessly cocksur, arrogant and angry guys, but Josh has DRAMA. Is there still time to vote Allison back in?

It would be nice if Chelsia got a heads up that by taking herself off, she loses James. Make her cry and stress. Let the karmic retribution begin for Noosia.

9:46 PM  
Blogger Carolyn said...

lol.. Noosia... it just penetrated my brain, finally. very funny.

9:47 PM  
Blogger Meredith said...

Oh, and if Ryan puts up James, Josh, Matty, Ryan, Adam, Sheila, Alex, Allison, Amanda, Jacob or Natalie, I am totally not watching this show anymore.

9:59 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I cannot believe how many times the strategy has changed this afternoon.

No point trying to figure out what's gonna happen....it will change about a hundred more times before before the nomination and eviction.

I wish they'd think more and talk less :)

And personally, I can live without James, I like Josh.


10:00 PM  
Blogger Carolyn said...

meredith - lolol.. you're on a roll

10:14 PM  
Blogger Doc Rocket said...

Jeesh...I can't keep up with this train wreck! Get rid of the strongest person...the one who has a jury house full of friends, is manipulative as all hell, is physically stronger than the others, has a ’til death partner still in the house, is aligned/indebted to no one...it isn’t rocket science…Matty really needs to go.

This is for everyone’s game…no matter who you are cheering for (except of course if you are cheering Matt on)

10:20 PM  
Blogger nWjoe said...

Hey Carolyn- what week do they normally do double evictions? Is it done every season? It would shake things up for sure. Either one side would get a big advantage or it would just be tit for tat.

10:21 PM  
Anonymous Heather said...

I love James. Why is everyone a James hater. I think he is so sweet and he has been pretty honest with everyone as to why he did or does what he does. james really does make this show and if he went it would be bad for ratings.. Ryan don't be an ass and just stick with getting rid of Matt. Maybe he is just playing everyone. Could Ryan be that smart?

10:23 PM  
Anonymous boyce said...

people people people...ryan doesnt care who you hate in the house... he needs to think for himself, matt has to go for him and thats all that matters. Matt is the biggest liar in the house and i think he finally figured it out. Goodbye matt...you cant lie 100% of the game and win.

10:23 PM  
Blogger Carolyn said...

nwjoe "what week do they normally do double evictions? Is it done every season?"

Last season they did it when there were 6 left... bye jess, bye eric... leaving jameka, zach, dick & dani

10:28 PM  
Blogger Beorn said...

All I can do is shake my head. Ryan is rapidly losing my respect--almost as rapidly as he burns through those Parliaments, which is saying a lot. I didn't like the Joshua idea, but at least they'd be taking out a really strong player if Josh went. But James???? Once James runs out of small-town midwesterners who get all misty eyed at the thought of singing Kumbaya at a Woodstock reenactment, he will also run out of strong supporters.

Current Summary:

Sheila: Gutsy, emotional. Swiftness in not her primary asset.

Natalie: Just pitiful. But not deserving of pity.

James: More potential to be a lightweight than to use his strengths.

Ryan: More spineless by the minute. Jen might as well be back so she can tighten the screws a little more. Needs to stop talking and start thinking for himself.

Adam: Wow. He's actually playing.

Matt: One of the best uses for a pool cue I've ever seen. And I'm not even talking about billiards.

Dropkick Murphys: Still awesome.

10:33 PM  
Blogger Meredith said...

Thanks Carolyb

Did somebody say somethng about a cyber tip jar? Bc clearly you do not work during BB besides this.

OH, and what does FOTH mean? I see it on Jokers. Feeds on Temporary Hold? Front of the House? Flams Or Trivia H____?

And what is NT?

I need your guidance, lady. Happy bday to your mum.

10:36 PM  
Blogger Beorn said...

Now Adam needs to approach Ryan and promise Ryan that he'll make sure that Jen comes back and wins the competition if Ryan backdoors himself.

At this point, I'm betting Ryan would agree to go for it.

10:39 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I still don't see why everyone thinks James is shady - if anything Matt is the shadiest person on this show. What a loser.

10:41 PM  
Blogger Carolyn said...

Meredith - FoTH means front of the house, which is what they showed when feeds cut away during season one.

Later it changed to Fish... then Flames, then last year was the Papa Smurf Colonoscopy... and now we're back to flames... but FoTH has always stuck :)

I have all the acronyms I could think of over at DishFAQs, among other things :)

Re the tip jar - yes! :) thank you for asking. It's on the left sidebar of the blog, just below the ebay info, & parallel to the vertical "header" (of all the HGs) on the right sidebar.

lol.. it would probably be clever of me to make it a little more noticeable, huh?

10:46 PM  
Blogger Carolyn said...

anon@11:04 - (unpublished)
if you're being honest with yourself, you'll see there are many different opinions on the site.

the only things that don't get published are the crude and/or abusive comments.

11:07 PM  
Blogger nWjoe said...

Meredith- on that other site, the letters NT stands for no text. That means the whole post is shown on that line. You don't need to click on it because you already see the authors' entire entry.

11:11 PM  
Blogger Beorn said...

Carolyn, thank you for your time!

And strangely, I appreciate the the forum rules, even though I found them odd at first. Because after all, the live feed clips are often about as crude and profane and abusive as it gets--in some ways, BB is about a group of people racing to the lowest common denominator of all of the above. Nevertheless, it's nice to have that toned down a bit in the posts and comments.

11:13 PM  
Blogger Carolyn said...

oops, i missed the NT part of the question. thanks joe.

11:14 PM  
Blogger Carolyn said...

Thanks very much, Beorn. :)

The Feeds (and just the internet in general) often make people forget their manners...

There's no need for all the nastiness, and since I'm the one approving all the comments, lol, I really prefer not to be bombarded by it...

Also, sounds silly, but after a very long day, the super nasties start feeling like personal attacks.

11:17 PM  
Blogger Beorn said...

Well. Things have slowed down here. I didn't want to hog the board, but since it's quiet, just one more post for now:

I totally understand how it could get very wearying, Carolyn. Plus the rules seem to encourage civil exchange between posters, which seems hard to come by on the Internet. Again,I thank you for your time and effort. And genuinely, if I wasn't a grad student living on $12K/year, I'd do more than say thanks.

So has Ryan run through every potential target and come back around to Josh yet?

And can we please have a gay contestant who isn't a one-person wrecking ball for the image of LGBT folks? How 'bout a down-to-earth bear, CBS?

12:16 AM  
Anonymous Glen said...

Not sure if anything is concrete with Ryan. All I have seen him do is agree with EVERYONE's plans and who really knows what he is thinking. As I have watched Ryan this season, I do notice he goes against no one really. He just follows along with whatever anyone is saying to him at the time. I think we really don't know how he will nominate. Just my observation. Personally, I think Matt is the biggest threat to anyone in the house. I hope Ryan sees that the first plan to get rid of Matt is his best assurance of sticking around for a while. We shall see.
Oh on a personal note, Thank God the couples twist is done with!! The game is so much better played when its every man for him/herself! Me likey more now! :)

12:41 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

mooo!!!!! MOOOOOOO!!!

What's that sound? Cow patties being made for the next HOH comp?? Nope...it's just Ryan being led around by the nose. Hmm...Guanteed two weeks more in the house, or keep the dirt bag with the big mouth, big target and his sidekick Fruitcake Girl?? It seems like such a tough decision...NOT!

Matt would throw his own mom under the bus if he thought it would save him...

Geez I love to hate this game!


12:50 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

my...oh my...

I just don't even know what to say. We had a game, EVERYONE in the house AGREED to a plan...

then WOOHOO here comes Dirty Matt outtanowhere with a new scheme. who is he savin? HIMSELF. the other alliance is really looking forward in the game.
"let's get matt up there"
"let's vote for matt to go"
"then we can sway nattalie, or taget her if she is mad.."

this plan leaves Ryan CLEAN AND CLEAR for at least a week..until he can figure a new plan, probably with James and Baller...

I just don't understand WHY we would sway from this plan...WHY WHY WHY???????

Ok...my new plan is for us, all of us here on this forum to play BB ourselves, on line...we will get to know each other, get web cams and all that crap...have competitions....WE CAN DO BETTER THAN THIS!!!!! PROMISE YOU WE CAN.

the only problem is that I am not a 23 yr old with a "smokin" bodu...only problem.

i feel better now......but I am still sending phycic messages, "ryan, nominate matt"
"ryan, nominate matt"
"ryan, nominate matt"
"ryan, nominate matt"
"ryan, nominate matt"
"ryan, nominate matt"

nite :-0 and, i love yous gius!! :-_)

3:33 AM  
Blogger Evel Girl said...

With the way they are flip flopping around it may be the first time in history an HOH ends up nominating himself. LOL. So far they've gone from Matt to Josh to James....Pick a nom any nom...Jeez.

4:10 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...


yippity doo dah yippity aye
my oh my what a wonderful day.

yabba dabba doooo!

halla fricken loo ya!

Finally, someone is thinking in there, James is the leader of the nerd herd and by cutting him out, they smash that alliance. Of course you cant trust Matt. But he is physically strong and could provide a sheild in that everyone would be gunning for him instead of Ryan.
Woo Hoo, lets just hope that they stick with it.
As for Chelsea not using the veto if she gets wind of the plan, please in what universe would she sacrifice herself for anyone?
that girl is so mean, she would dance on her mother's grave for a chance at a good laugh. Her sense of humor escapes me.

4:17 AM  
Blogger mike~del said...

This is a smart play by Ryan period. Getting Matty out made zero sense.

Now Matty on the other hand, he is really good at this game. I think he's making it to the final 3, the question will be, can he get enough votes against Adam, cause that's my final two. I don't think he can.

4:54 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

oh ryan, poor kid. it's obvious he has never made a big decision on his own. he did say his mommy did everything for him.
if you're going to mess up josh's plan you put up josh! DUH!

5:11 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Thanks for all your updates, they are great....
VOTE James out...then Chelsia. James seems like he is all even tone, but he is a shyster. If you listen to James talk, he says crap about everyone.

5:37 AM  
Anonymous amy c said...

I have been REALLY disappointed with Ryan's game play during his stint at HOH...he might have been one of the few players left in the game I wouldn't have mind seeing win this thing. Now I see he's pretty weak minded and being completely manipulated by Matt. We still have a few more days til veto ceremony, maybe he can put a few more names out there that he's going to put up! Ugggghhhhhh...

I wish he could see that Matt is strategically the best pick for this week, let the rest of the group pick off each other while the target is off his back and it gives him at least 2 more weeks.

He doesn't appear to be considering what's in his OWN best interest.

5:39 AM  
Blogger Jess said...

i am not a fan of james and chelsia so i would rather see james go. i have liked ryan and josh, hoping they would be in the final 2 after they started playing as singles. i am not happy with ryan right now, though. he is too fickle and he doesn't know who he wants gone. i would much rather he nominate james and get him out if it means josh gets to stay!! i do however think the plan to get rid of matt was the best choice. matt would screw ryan over if he needed to. no doubt about that. matt can't be trusted!! hopefully, ryan is just going along with whatever they tell him and in the end he will still back-door matty. i know that probably isn't what's going to happen, but i am hoping he isn't this stupid!! if he doesn't put matt up, i will be hoping ryan and matt are on the block next week and matt goes.

5:48 AM  
Anonymous Angie said...

This season is just total chaos. I hope next season the ppl in charge of casting worry less about what the HGs look like and more about whether or not they know how to play the game shhheeeeaassshhhh already.

6:16 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I think James is far from a nerd - or any nerd herd - the year the nerd herd was on that was definately nerds - and so not James.

6:25 AM  
Anonymous patti said...

You know, you can name any one houseguest, past or present, and find several hundred viewers that absolutely "hate" them and the same number that "love" them. What are we basing our emotions about these people on? Just one answer: their game play. And the truth is, how they are in this game is not necessarily how they are in real life. If you ever watch Housecalls, you will hear all the past HG's that are co-hosting explaining no, you are not YOURSELF, you are playing a game and if you have any brains at all, you know that the only person you can truly trust is yourself. That's why last season was so unfair, Daniele and Dick had two people they could trust besides themselves, each other, and that may have been the first time in BB history that was the case. And duh, look who won! It's plain and simple. Any HG that truly believes that they can trust anybody besides themselves is screwed and any HG that is completely aware that they only need to say or do whatever it takes to look out for number one, is golden. Matt truly knows this, and I suspect James does too. Most of them are losing sight of the look out for number one theory and don't even realize it.

7:03 AM  
Blogger N2RealityTV said...

Oy! I had really hoped they'd get out Matty - he's a true P-I-G pig! Especially b/c it would be so bitter sweet to see Matty leave as Alex returns. lol

I took a nap and woke up to see my personal fav for the season all of a sudden in the hot seat! No not Joshie!!!

Then all of a sudden it switches to James. I slept peacefully last night needless to say.

We'll see who's who and what's what tomorrow night. As usual a lot can happen and expect the unexpected.

Thanks again for all of your hard work on this site... DishLadies rule!!!


7:26 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I just have to say that I thought Ryan had more sense than to get rid of James. James is a lot less of a threat during competitions than Matt. Yeah, he will plot and scheme, but during challenges, Matt is the bigger threat. I hope the girls that are with Ryan, Matt, and Adam realize that as soon as those boys get what they want from them (power), they will be the next ones to leave. I say if Ryan nominates James, the girls should use their brains for once and flip to the other side, and go hard core after those boys.

Ryan is an idiot. Matt is playing him. That's pretty much all I can say. If he's dumb enough to believe it, then I guess he deserves to get played. The way I look at it is this. I would rather keep somebody who "stabs me in the front" in the game, because then I know what's going on and I know what I have to do. With Matt, you're just walking through, having a good time, and next thing you know, you're under the bus wondering how the hell you got there.

Good luck Ryan

7:48 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I can't believe so many of you like James (gross) I think this is a good idea but Ryan is to fickel. Matt has had a rude awakening I hope he can remain loyal to his crew. A lot of you guys seem to want Alex to come back why? We already have Josh. I don't know what they're thinking but James and Chelsia have to go imo.

12:15 PM  
Blogger Stephanie said...

ugh, i will not be able to stand this show if they backdoor James. Funny that all these "macho" guys are scared of James. Ryan will be the biggest idiot if he backdoors James instead of Matt. Are ABall and Ryan this big of idiots?? James was the one that called out Matt for trying to play both sides! Hope it doesn't happen, but if it does, Ryan better watch out!

9:05 AM  

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