Wednesday Morning
Video Added to the end.
The Big Brother 9 Houseguests are feeling the heat. Everyone's cranky today - even Natalie. She just had a blow up with Matt, about him, and then with him again.
9:30am BBT
Kitchen Counter
Matt & Natt
Adam is also present.
Matt has had it up to here with Natalie, and he can't even keep up the public pretense anymore.
Natalie: I'm not talking to you anymore. Everyone gets the nice Mattie, except me.
Adam: Not everybody.
Natalie: (exasperated) Well almost everybody except me.
Natalie goes to the storage room and confides in Joshuah about how poorly Matt treats her.
Natalie: Everybody notices in this f'ing house that he never gives me the time of day. He's not gonna put you up on the block. He's not gonna do sh*t. He's just tempermental. Besides that, if he even threatens to do that, I'll leave this house right now.
Joshuah: Well, he's gonna get mad at me. I know him. He's holding a grudge.
Natalie: I'm gonna talk to him again later. I'm gonna tell him straight up. I'm gonna say, "Joshie was concerned for me, because you don't spend any time with me."
Joshuah: Mm Hmm.
Natalie: I said, he's concerned. He's my friend. But he's not the only one. Matt goes, who else? I'm not gonna name names. I said don't get mad at him. He said, I can get mad at whoever I want. I said, You wanna get mad at someone for starting Sh*t with us, get mad at Amanda! because Joshie was just concerned for me. He said just let him breathe, let him get some food... Leave him the F alone. I'm gonna throw this HoH. F that sh*t. he can kiss my ass. If he's gonna act this way.. and if he even remotely threatens you guys... I will not win this HoH for sure! You guys can have it.
- ***2 points for Josh's manipulation tactics.
Natalie:
Allison: Are you ok?
Natalie: Uuugh! My partner spends more time with every other F'ing person in this house that me!
Allison: I know.
Natalie: And I try to talk to him, and every single time I try to talk to him, he blows up at me!
Allison: And.. umm.. I don't know what he's doing exactly, but it's probably not a good move.
Natalie: What?
Allison: Just... like.. this is what I wanted to talk to you about after the eviction today, if I'm still around..
Natalie: OK.
Allison: I mean, Parker is just a f'ing loose cannon. I said to him, here's the thing... If you don't like this, we never had this conversation.
Enter Matt...
Matt: OK, now you're both here, and we can have a chat. (Natalie) If you're upset that I ever lay with her, I'll never lay with her again.
Natalie: I try to talk to you and you throw me off. I just want to get to know my partner, Mattie.
Matt: Why are you cryin'?
Natalie: Because it hurts my feelings.
Allison: I'm gonna let you guys talk.. ok?
Allison leaves.
Matt: Why you cryin? Why you cryin'?
Matt hugs her, rubs her back...
Natalie: Because it hurts my feelings. I just want to get to know you. You put this wall in front of me, and I can't get to know you. I'm sensitive because you don't give me 5 minutes a day. You say you will, but every time I walk into a room, you leave. Every time I ask you to talk, you say later. I'm not gonna ask you 30 times a day to talk to you.
Matt: Alright, I apologize. I'll work on that.
Natalie: ya know? And when other people in the house are noticing that you spend a lot of time with another girl, that just makes me look bad.
Matt: It shouldn't make you look bad. Just say, yeah, that makes me feel uncomfortable, why don't you vote them out. That was part of the f'in original plan..
Natalie: Yeah, but I don't want it to look excessive, like you're trying to suck up to people, ya know, because then people will target us.
Matt: I'm sorry for upsetting you.
Natalie: It's like I'm scared to come up and talk to you.
Matt: You shouldn't be scared.
Natalie: Well, I mean..
Matt: Just talk to me at normal hours of the day.
Natalie: I always try to talk to you at normal hours of the day! Every time I go into a room, you leave! Every time I try to sit next to you, you get up!
Matt: Not really..
Natalie: Start noticing!
Matt: If I do, I'm not doing it intentionally... that's for sure.
Natalie: Well, it just seems you're trying to avoid me at all hours of the day...
Matt: Look, come 'ere, I'm sorry, gimme a hug... I'm sorry. Don't cry. I'll be nicer to you from now on. I've been trying to be nicer. I don't talk smack...
Natalie: I know you have. you've been a lot nicer, but I still feel like I can't talk to you.
Matt: I don't like to talk. That's just me.
Natalie: That's a lie! You talk to everyone else in this house!
Matt: Yeah, but not about myself. I'm just shooting the breeze.
Natalie: How are we supposed to bond if we don't talk to each other. 5 minutes. That's all I ask.
Matt: And the next time people ask you something about us, say, Mind ya business. That's all you have to say to people, because they're like the 2 old people of the house.. ya know the old people who watch out their windows? It's no concern of theirs. Just say it's between me and my partner.
Natalie: OK. I will from now on.
Matt: People realize we're really strong in this game. They're gonna try to break you. They know I don't give a F. They know you're really sensitive.. that's the only way they're gonna crack us. You gotta remember that too.
Natalie: I'm not that sensitive.
Matty spells it out.
Matt: People are not your friends in this house. You think they're your friends.. like Parker... Parker's not my friend. Alex is not my friend. Everybody's here to win a game.
Natalie: Yeah.
Matt: If me 'n you weren't together, we probably wouldn't be friends either.
Natalie: Mm hmm.
Matt: ...because that's just..
Natalie: ...the game.
Matt: You're here for one reason, and one reason only. Joshuah and Sharon may love you, and they may think you're a nice person, but they are not your friends.
Natalie: No...
Matt: They want to win. If they have the chance, they will put you away. You gotta remember that.
Natalie: Oh, I remember that.
Matt: When they're asking you questions like that, they're not saying it to benefit Natalie..
Last night at 12:10am BBT, Natalie expressed to Matt that she thought it was important for them to know each other for the sake of competitions.
posted by CarolynBBDish @ 9:44 AM
19 Comments:
Matt is a schmuck!
Natalie grates on my nerves, but Matt in my opinion is a total ***. He encourages her to give BJ's, then acts like she is the scum of the earth. I think maybe she is scummy, but I think she also has insecurities. natalie needs to wake up and figure out who she is. Matt on the other hand knows who he is and is proud of himself for being a butt!
To be honest I thing that Matt and Natalie are a lot closer than we think. I am thinking that it was set up from the beginning that Matt was going to be a little standoffish towards her. It just seems to have gotten out of hand.
Of course I could be totally wrong here but that is what I got out of that conversation. I do agree if that is not the case then Matt is being a schmuck. (to say it nice)
Maybe Matt is a mean person (so against my normal vocabulary of curses and put downs, lol) to Natalie, because he KNOWS Natalie is on his side. Think about it, if he says I really like you and want you to do well in this challenge, she'll go Rambo-style in the challenge to win! He knows he's got her wrapped around his finger...sad, but true.
You also need to realize that Matt may just be one of the few people who TRULY understand this game. Everyone in the house is against his couple and Alex's couple, so why wouldn't he go around to all the women (who he seems to have the best ability to persuade) and try to kiss up to them and get them on his side? To stay in the game!! I know he's being a mean person to Natalie with the not talking to her, but she needs to realize he needs to do some damage control in the house since it will be his & her booty up on that block if they don't win HoH.
Matt does need to watch out for her and talk to her since she is obviously very sensitive. Hell, if he leaves her alone with Josh for a few more hours, I can bet you will see another Venom-Josh Blowout against Natalie or Matt soon, ESPECIALLY if they win HoH.
6 more hours till live show!!
~ Ryan ~
I'm not saying Matt has been nice to her, he can be a real pig. But I think that was a reasonable enough conversation. He's right on about most of it. Nat uses sex to get what she wants, she's a grown woman and is responsible too. Matt could have turned her away sexually, and someone more adult would have. But that would have made her upset too ... she's kind hearted, but she's no innocent.
Jane
Matt should take some of his own advice. His little suck-up-fest this week will be for naught come Thur (or Friday or whenever they nom) when he's up on the block next to Alex.
He should've saved Jen/Parker with the Veto (or just let them win it themselves) and played the numbers game. Instead, that alliance of 6 has made more early-game bonehead moves than the Mrs Robinson alliance of BB8. They'll be gone much faster as well.
i wonder about them two... like if they have known each other outside of the house or something before.
I do feel bad for Natalie that Matt ignores her during the day, but it's the girls own fault. She shouldn't have given it up her 2nd day of knowing him..he has no reason to flirt with her and be nice to her, he already got what he wanted. He will pacify her to keep her on his side until they split with there partners and they he will vote her out. Matt is there to play the game and the flirting role has worked for quite a few quys in past seasons and thats his role this year. Natalie needs to keep her mouth shut and her hoo hoo shut for right now and just continue to play smart with her partner...
I really dont like the partner thing right now
Manda
okay - now that I've read the entire post (sorry), maybe he's got his game on! but...he still treats natalie like crap! he shouldn't "kiss-n-tell", if you know what I mean!
great post carolyn!
I do not feel bad for her at all. She thinks giving Matt Blow Jobs is going to make him like her and he obviously doesn't. He's treating her like the trashy person she is!
Ugh, I really don't like anyone this season :[ I'm really really trying too.
I say AMEN, Matt!
Someone needs to be able to remind people that this is a game! It's only week 2! This couples thing has done weird things to all of them and I can just imagine when they go to singles play! But what Matt said is right. Maybe his actions are wrong, and you may not like his horn dog style, but he should get credit for what he said to Nat about game focus!
thanks, gail :)
I too have wondered if maybe Matt and Nat were together outside the house because she seemes so physical with him but this private convo tells me no. He does makee sense and this is probably the best"game" talk I've heard thus far. I've said it before, there is not much, if any, strategy in this house. Another thing....my daughter has been looking forward to BB about as much as us adults have and with all these rampnat hormones raging thru the house I can't even let her watch it! She's more than bummed let me tell you. I mean before you could sensor it but last night was ridiculous. The editing was pretty bad....I wonder what they're thinking?? I thought for sure they wouldn't show the Jen/Ryan bathroom incident.....
That's right Matt, 1+2=3. You should confirm it with her on a daily basis. Don't let her wander off with Joshie for hours on end...part of this game is nurturing your partner, communicating and keeping them aligned with you...not so easy with this bunch! Don't make the mistake Alex made...appease...and for earth's sake WIN HOH!
Shoulda, woulda, coulda - taken Parker and Jen off the block.
Here is what I think. I think that they paired people that are the complete opposite of their "soul mate" Their soul mate MAY be in the house, but NOT thier partner. Think about it. Jen dates black people, Ryan doean't like biracial couples, Jen & Ry live together, we saw how well Shilia and Adam went, and Sharon and Jacob, enough said. I think they purposly put the couples with thier polar opposites. The twist could be that they will be informed that yes your Soul Mate IS here but not with you, then go to single play. Just a thought. I can't figure out where James is in all of this. We saw that Gay Mag he was in. Is be maybe Bi? They seamed to pair people for fireworks not "love". Of all the guys in the house Ry would have the most reaction to Parker, Jen would be pulled toward him, Allsion is obviously a jealous person and opposite of Jen, and it was plain as day how Sharron felt about Jacob. If someone said "This is your Soul Mate" and you are single wanting love. Do you blindly trust that and try to force it to work? That seams to be the question here. Would they focus on that more than the game. It seams like Physco lab experiment to be. Maybe some grad student is a producer working on a thesis paper or something.
I think Matt is one of the very few people in there with any real strategy and real smart as far as the games goes. He's going around and playing all the girls but his head is totally in the game, whereas most of these other people are so worried about actually hooking up with their "soulmate" (like Natalie keeps trying to do with Matt) or with someone else in the house that they lose sight of the fact that this is a GAME! Matt is very focused on the game aspect while being a horn dog at the same time, but he never said he wasn't like that, he's not trying to act like a nice guy, he even told Natalie from the beginning not to get emotionally attached! She likes him so much and wants to hook up and stay together after they get out of the house that she's willing to give him bj's on the 2nd night there, I guess as an attempt to get him to like her, which he clearly told her he didn't like her that way and not to get emotionally attached! And he treats her like crap the next day, and again the following night she gives him another bj, so how is he being a shmuck? He was straight up with her from the beginning, she wants more and is constantly trying to be with him 24/7, and he's trying to play the game!
Kim I have wondered the same thing. I would not at all be surprised if Julie made that statement sometime in the near future... if so, it'll suck for the HG's whos soulmate has already been evicted.
"Their soul mate MAY be in the house, but NOT thier partner."
I really like Matt, he seems to be the only person in the house that seems to be playing the GAME.
This is the worst BB cast ever.
I think people are taking this soul mate thing a bit to literally. Could you imagine if CBS could really find our soul mates with a questionaire and a psych test? I'm not sure god has those powers, and even if he/she/it does I doubt they were shared with the BB producers. It's not the Love Boat, it's Big Brother. Maximum conflict with just enough nookie that sex is implied but can still be aired in prime time.
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